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thisbluespirit) wrote2009-08-13 08:42 pm
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And yet more top 5 memeage
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jjpor asked for my top five Five/Tegan moments. I'm not sure any of their moments really count as Five/Tegan, but whether shippy or not, here they are. (I was tempted to go down the line of all those exchanges, you know: "How are you feeling?" / "Sore, bad-tempered and groggy."/ "Splendid - almost your old self." and the bit in Frontios "I got it cheap because it walks funny, and then there's the accent...")
1. Mawdryn Undead: Tegan thanks the Doctor. This is understated, but it's a rare thing for a companion to stop and thank the Doctor for being heroic and Tegan does just that - and shows that she has some understanding of what he was prepared to give up for her and Nyssa and she's grateful. Of course, he just 'Hmphs' and carts off an unconscious Brigadier, but that's Five for you.
2. Adric's Death (I'm cheating and splicing together Earthshock and Time-Flight here, but I have to): Nyssa, dictated to by logic as she says she is, simply grives; Tegan looks to the Doctor, expecting him to do something and only breaks into tears when she sees the look on his face. And next minute they're blaming each other (and inwardly blaming themselves) because he didn't save Adric and she left the TARDIS, forcing him to, in a way, choose between her and Adric. And they do this arguing like two parents with Nyssa as a confused child between them. Then he winds up at Heathrow and tries to dump her. (So there.) (Bonus for the bit where she says "There must be something you can do!" and sounds as though if he doesn't, she will, and probably clout him round the head, too.)
3. Snakedance: The Doctor hugs Tegan at the end. It's not so much this, as the way the Doctor's left shaken after his efforts to defeat the Mara, and everyone else is just the crowd, on the other side. And then he turns and sees Tegan in tears and that there is someone who gets it. This just annoys him, but he still hugs her properly for the once and only time.
4. Tegan's reaction on thinking that the Doctor is dead: I can't decide between her instinctive, mad desire to leap after him in Warriors of the Deep and her despair in Enlightenment when Marriner says something like "All the colour has gone out of your mind."
5. Resurrection of the Daleks: Tegan leaves. I love her exit, sudden though it is. And it's not so much this as the way that Peter Davison and Janet Fielding play the Doctor's decision to kill Davros as if they're the only two in the TARDIS and that's the moment she has to go. And therefore why the line "It seems I must mend my ways." (Because after all, he couldn't do much about all those good people dying). And in true Tegan fashion, gives him something he may not like, but needs, right to the last.
With an honourable mention for Frontios, particularly the bit at the end where the Doctor decides that, instead of leaving with Tegan and Turlough and dropping the Gravis off somewhere en route, he insists on leaving Turlough and the hatstand behind and waltzing off with Tegan in his unreliable TARDIS to deposit a giant woodlouse on a barren planet. The more you think about this, the more deaths unaccountable have nothing on the Doctor's reasoning here.
john_elliott, I'm still thinking about yours.
jjpor asked for my top five Five/Tegan moments. I'm not sure any of their moments really count as Five/Tegan, but whether shippy or not, here they are. (I was tempted to go down the line of all those exchanges, you know: "How are you feeling?" / "Sore, bad-tempered and groggy."/ "Splendid - almost your old self." and the bit in Frontios "I got it cheap because it walks funny, and then there's the accent...")1. Mawdryn Undead: Tegan thanks the Doctor. This is understated, but it's a rare thing for a companion to stop and thank the Doctor for being heroic and Tegan does just that - and shows that she has some understanding of what he was prepared to give up for her and Nyssa and she's grateful. Of course, he just 'Hmphs' and carts off an unconscious Brigadier, but that's Five for you.
2. Adric's Death (I'm cheating and splicing together Earthshock and Time-Flight here, but I have to): Nyssa, dictated to by logic as she says she is, simply grives; Tegan looks to the Doctor, expecting him to do something and only breaks into tears when she sees the look on his face. And next minute they're blaming each other (and inwardly blaming themselves) because he didn't save Adric and she left the TARDIS, forcing him to, in a way, choose between her and Adric. And they do this arguing like two parents with Nyssa as a confused child between them. Then he winds up at Heathrow and tries to dump her. (So there.) (Bonus for the bit where she says "There must be something you can do!" and sounds as though if he doesn't, she will, and probably clout him round the head, too.)
3. Snakedance: The Doctor hugs Tegan at the end. It's not so much this, as the way the Doctor's left shaken after his efforts to defeat the Mara, and everyone else is just the crowd, on the other side. And then he turns and sees Tegan in tears and that there is someone who gets it. This just annoys him, but he still hugs her properly for the once and only time.
4. Tegan's reaction on thinking that the Doctor is dead: I can't decide between her instinctive, mad desire to leap after him in Warriors of the Deep and her despair in Enlightenment when Marriner says something like "All the colour has gone out of your mind."
5. Resurrection of the Daleks: Tegan leaves. I love her exit, sudden though it is. And it's not so much this as the way that Peter Davison and Janet Fielding play the Doctor's decision to kill Davros as if they're the only two in the TARDIS and that's the moment she has to go. And therefore why the line "It seems I must mend my ways." (Because after all, he couldn't do much about all those good people dying). And in true Tegan fashion, gives him something he may not like, but needs, right to the last.
With an honourable mention for Frontios, particularly the bit at the end where the Doctor decides that, instead of leaving with Tegan and Turlough and dropping the Gravis off somewhere en route, he insists on leaving Turlough and the hatstand behind and waltzing off with Tegan in his unreliable TARDIS to deposit a giant woodlouse on a barren planet. The more you think about this, the more deaths unaccountable have nothing on the Doctor's reasoning here.
john_elliott, I'm still thinking about yours.
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1. and 3. It's the small moments like this that I'm talking about when I say subtle, and very telling that Five's outward reaction always seems to be annoyance at her, but then they do understand each other.
2. Very true, and absolutely the only redeeming feature about Time Flight. So, Adric wasn't a complete waste of space! ;D That was unnecessarily harsh, wasn't it?
4. I'd go with the Enlightenment moment, just because Mr. Marriner creeps me out nearly as much as he does Tegan, but the other one is certainly very interesting and telling as well.
5. Agreed here that the actors do far more with that scene than the fairly dodgy script probably deserved. I think this is true of Fielding and Davison's performances throughout what is otherwise a pretty mediocre story. In fact, "mediocre" is probably wildly overgenerous.
And true, very true about Frontios. Well, I guess Turlough wasn't that loveable, was he? And the line about the funny walk and the accent is great, especially the way Davison says it.
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4. Yes, but I rather like Tegan's irrational moments - thumping Adric and escaping in the TARDIS and messing things up in Four to Doomsday, throwing herself at the console in Earthshock, so I'm torn.
Aw, poor Turlough! I mean, I know there was the orange hair and the dodgy eyebrows and the trying-to-kill-the-Doctor thing, but the Doctor always seemed to like him. And he does unexpectedly turn out to be a hero. (I can't help but wonder how Mark Strickson would have played it if he'd known Turlough's backstory all along, because the moment he gets it in Planet of Fire, the change is striking.)
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Very nice gathering of moments above. I didn't quickly warm to Tegan, but as time goes on I find myself liking her more and more.
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I just - even though I had the B7 2 boxsets - bought the Guardian trilogy and Turlough is even more impressive with the commentary on. I love him. Mark Strickson always makes thing interesting, whatever else he does. And, considering at the start he doesn't know exactly how old Turlough is supposed to be, what he's doing at that school or anything, and he has to try and drop unconvincing rocks on the Doctor, it's even more so.
Besides, lovely exit. "Look after him, won't you? He gets into the most terrible trouble."
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So, he didn't know how old he was supposed to be? That's a riot. Did he ever figure it out? In any case, his attempts to be 16 when he's clearly older than the Doctor are endlessly amusing.
And yes, his lovely exit, which is rather countermanded by Peri getting him killed in the Very. Next. Episode. lol
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Well, they don't say as much, but given that nobody had any more info than we get in Mawdryn, probably not, which explains a lot. (And I think the assumption is that he's Sixth Form, so 17 or 18, anyway). And then decides he must be older, as he flirts with Tegan in Terminus. :lol:
That is because Five needs a Tegan. ;-D I'm always v. amused that Janet was supposed stay until the Twin Dilemma, because it's so hard to imagine Tegan playing quite the role that Peri does in Caves.
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By the way, how are the redone special effects on Enlightenment? I'm curious because 1. I thought the effects were quite good to start and didn't need redoing, and 2. rumour is that they spent more on that than the actual episode originally cost to produce.
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That is not much help, is it? I am also intrigued by the idea.
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It was because I was watching the commentaries on the Guardian trilogy and it made me realise that when he starts off Mark Strickson doesn't even if know if Turlough is an alien of about 17, 18 who happens to be stuck in the school or if (as is the case), he's meant to be older than that. And if someone had planned... Still, what ifs will get us nowhere, except in fic.
Can we talk about the tasteful stripy top instead? Anything but the speedos! :lol: