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[I wrote this with about 0 brain something like 2 months ago. But I was feeling like posting one of my drafts and I just realised belatedly that Chris Bidmead had died in August. Or possibly just found out and was shocked for a second time, who knows, it's terrible how much I forget. But I do love his DW era very much and while he lived to a good age, I am still sorry to hear it - he brought so much to the show & was a rare DW script editor who was genuinely interested in SFF* as a genre, which showed in a whole bunch of scripts commissioned by him, which are like any of the other eras - even if a whole set of them then had the misfortunate to be made by the next script editor who Did Not Get Them at all. This serial is actually one he wrote later for his successor's rather more action/dark orientated era (and said successor, Eric Saward, Did Not Get this one either), but - I had prepared it earlier! And also: I love Frontios!]


I haven't much brain so I thought for this edition of the Unofficial Fandom 50 I would once again burble about a favourite classic Who serial, this time...

Frontios

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What is it?

It is a four part Fifth Doctor serial (4x 25 mins; c. 1hr 25 minutes in total) from Season 21 (1984). Yes, it has Giant Woodlice.

The Fifth Doctor (Peter Davison), Tegan (Janet Fielding) and Turlough (Mark Strickson) accidentally stray into the far future - so far that the Time Lords are forbidden to go there. They arrive at a tiny, struggling colony of survivors from Earth, who are under bombardment from an unknown enemy from space - except there's also something beneath them: the earth on Frontios is hungry...


Sometimes, as a DW fan, you love the unloved serial; sometimes you adore the fan favourite - and sometimes you just love a decent one more than you can properly justify or exactly explain, but we've all been there. I have a few of these, and Frontios is one, although honestly I think it belongs in the circle just outside of the all time greats personally, which is why I'm going to babble about it. (I mean, I realise, like everything, it does depend on a) taste and b) how people feel about lumbering giant woodlice).

(It's also the only DW serial where a member of the main guest cast had to be replaced at the last minute because the original actor, Peter Arne, had been murdered. This has no bearing on anything, other than the replacement being the excellent William Lucas, but I felt the need to mention it anyway). (All my DW classic faves do not involve someone dying or nearly dying irl, I promise).




What do I love about it?

It's about confronting buried/unspoken terrors & what you can do with gravity in SFF if you have some giant woodlice to hand, plus it's one of those forsaken, almost Shakespearean colonies classic Who loves to do (the youthful leader with his fragile hold on it is even called Plantagenet) and I am a sucker for such things. The guest cast is great - William Lucas, Lesley Dunlop, Peter Gilmore & Jeff Rawle, pre-Drop the Dead Donkey.

Penned by Five's original script editor, Chris Bidmead, Peter Davison shines here, and gets to pull out his brainy specs for the first time since Bidmead left; Tegan and Turlough are both really well used, with Turlough's buried race trauma demonstrating that having alien companions as well as earthlings on the TARDIS can lead to interesting options for storytelling.

It's dark and weird, fascinating and quotable, with excellent team!TARDIS banter. The hatstand gets a moment of glory. The TARDIS is disintegrated. The Doctor saves Tegan's life by being really insulting to her. "Frontios buries its own dead."

Basically, I love weird colonies, I love strange ideas, I love this TARDIS team, I love the hatstand, I'm not at all put off by giant woodlice and: "Just tell them I came and went like a summer cloud." (Oh, Five. <3)


* Classic Who script editors (and producers) were assigned to the show by the BBC and did not always have a huge amount of choice about being offered the post and then being removed from it - it was just how the BBC worked at the time.

Date: 2026-03-01 09:28 pm (UTC)
astrogirl: (Ancelyn & Bambera)
From: [personal profile] astrogirl
Sometimes, as a DW fan, you love the unloved serial; sometimes you adore the fan favourite - and sometimes you just love a decent one more than you can properly justify or exactly explain, but we've all been there.

Oh, we so do. For me it's "Battlefield." <3 <3

(All my DW classic faves do not involve someone dying or nearly dying irl, I promise).

Which "Battlefield" also does, IIRC. Very glad Sophie did not in fact drown to death!

Anyway, it's been aaaaaages since I've seen "Frontios," but I remember liking it well enough, woodlice and all. I also seem to remember it inspiring me to buy a hatstand, back in the day. :)

Possibly I'm due for a rewatch of some 5th Doctor episodes sometime soonish.

Date: 2026-03-02 03:42 pm (UTC)
pedanther: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pedanther
Come to think of it, it probably had something to do with my decision to buy a hat stand as well.

(Which is currently standing by the door and bedecked with two hats, two jackets, a pullover and a collection of shopping bags.)

Date: 2026-03-02 03:58 pm (UTC)
astrogirl: (Time Lord)
From: [personal profile] astrogirl
I was more of a hat person back then than I am now, so I did use it for a hat, and also coats and scarves. I can't actually quite remember what happened to it. Did it break, or did I get rid of it when I moved? Hey, maybe it did end up with some space colonists!

Date: 2026-03-01 09:39 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
with Turlough's buried race trauma demonstrating that having alien companions as well as earthlings on the TARDIS can lead to interesting options for storytelling.

That does sound neat. I am sorry you lost its writer.
Edited Date: 2026-03-01 09:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2026-03-01 10:00 pm (UTC)
fabiadrake: (Famous Monster Tales)
From: [personal profile] fabiadrake
I think my favourite unloved serial is “Invasion of the Dinosaurs” — it’s got a great cast, a good script, and everyone else just complains about the plodding dinosaurs. Sigh.

I thought the name Peter Arne sounded familiar, and the fact of his murder. I think I’m remembering him from The Avengers.

What is Unofficial Fandom 50, btw?

Date: 2026-03-02 07:10 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I thought the name Peter Arne sounded familiar, and the fact of his murder. I think I’m remembering him from The Avengers.

He's in "Colony Three" (1964), an episode of Danger Man which memorably plays like a dry run for The Prisoner. When younger he also scammed Mary Renault, so he lived an incredibly weird life.

Date: 2026-03-02 07:48 pm (UTC)
fabiadrake: (Nina Hauben)
From: [personal profile] fabiadrake
I’ve not seen Danger Man but ah yes — he DID scam Mary Renault!! It’s all coming back to me now. RIP Peter Arne.

Date: 2026-03-04 04:09 pm (UTC)
fabiadrake: (Anon)
From: [personal profile] fabiadrake
If you can't look past an unconvincing dinosaur/woodlouse to appreciate the good stuff, what are you doing here
Well, QUITE. Personally I admire the resourcefulness of low budget special effects and everyone should be able to suspend disbelief for the sake of good storytelling. (I find unconvincing worldbuilding much more of a dealbreaker than a plastic monster or a painted backdrop.) It’s theatre!

there's a challenge called Fannish 50 and another identical one called Fandom 50 and one is a comm and one is hosted from someone's journal & they both exist and run yearly
Gosh, how exhausting. I simply can’t imagine that kind of dedication, either in terms of schedule or in terms of being able to keep both challenges distinct. Your approach sounds much more manageable and enjoyable.

Date: 2026-03-01 10:32 pm (UTC)
senmut: (Doctor Who: Nyssa Tegan 2)
From: [personal profile] senmut
It was a good serial.

Date: 2026-03-02 09:34 am (UTC)
bimo: (Best_of_Timelords)
From: [personal profile] bimo
Thank you so much for this post! :)

Even with all the wonderful incarnations we got thanks to New Who, Fivey is still my all time favourite Doctor, and Frontios one of my favourite Fifth Doctor adventures, rivaled only by Kinda and Caves of Androzani, for exactly the reasons you mentioned:

Penned by Five's original script editor, Chris Bidmead, Peter Davison shines here, and gets to pull out his brainy specs for the first time since Bidmead left; Tegan and Turlough are both really well used, with Turlough's buried race trauma demonstrating that having alien companions as well as earthlings on the TARDIS can lead to interesting options for storytelling.

It's dark and weird, fascinating and quotable, with excellent team!TARDIS banter. The hatstand gets a moment of glory. The TARDIS is disintegrated. The Doctor saves Tegan's life by being really insulting to her. "Frontios buries its own dead."

Date: 2026-03-04 09:20 am (UTC)
bimo: (Fivey_Adric_Tardis)
From: [personal profile] bimo
Aw, Enlightenment, Earthshock and Snakedance are on my favourite episode list, too. Oh, and I've always had a soft spot for Terminus, because I rather like Nyssa and would have loved if she had been given more screen time over the course of her run as a companion.

Peter is, I think, a really underrated, understated, brilliant actor, too.

Absolutely!

Date: 2026-03-02 02:44 pm (UTC)
pedanther: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pedanther
I also have a great deal of fondness for "Frontios", in my case partly modulated by the fact that, as far as I recall, I read the novelisation first, where it has to be said some of the special effects are rather more convincing...

Date: 2026-03-02 02:53 pm (UTC)
liadt: Chidori putting her arms round Naritsune from behind him (Shunken)
From: [personal profile] liadt
I didn't know about Peter Arne's murder or of Chris Bidmead dying. R.I.P to them both.

Isn't there B7 prop recycling too?

I haven't watched 'Frontios' in ages. I remember it had good ideas but the woodlice looked a bit rubbish, not an unusual occurrence with DW monsters!

Date: 2026-03-03 04:56 pm (UTC)
liadt: Ohatsu and Tokubei with their backs to the camera hold a strip of material between them above their heads (Sonezaki)
From: [personal profile] liadt
Aw, don't apologise, the DW books I read obv dodged scandals.



Date: 2026-03-02 03:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ragnarok_08
Thanks for this post!

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