And in other news...
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thisbluespirit... either a miracle happened, or we're in an alternate universe, for, as of yesterday, there are now 97 missing Doctor Who episodes instead of 106!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24467337
I know, I'm a bit belated, but that's because the BBC are mean about midnight embargoes and therefore making everything happen on a day when I can't make sensible posts because I had to go out for a bit (and so was too exhausted).
And it is a miracle: I don't know when I first found out so many episodes were missing - I'd imagine sometime after I started getting DWM in 1991, or possibly only when Tomb of the Cybermen was recovered in 1992. And that was the last time they found a whole story. In the twenty years that have followed, they've made odd discoveries of an episode at a time (four in all) and nobody thought another whole serial would ever be uncovered anywhere, ever, though there were always hoaxes now and then. So they've found more in one swoop here than has been found in the past 22 years. That is amazing.
Anyway, nearly two whole six-parters with Patrick Troughton! Isn't that fantastic? And The Enemy of the World and The Web of Fear, which were both such promising-looking ones. Patrick Troughton with an evil Bond villain twin! The Brigadier's first story, before he was even the Brigadier! People on my flist have watched them. It's real. I can put Enemy of the World on my Christmas list! Excuse me if I carry on belatedly flailing, because this is just unreal - the sort of find we could never let ourselves dare to believe in!
And I have very strong feelings - not unrelated to being a librarian - about people destroying created works, like published books and national television anyway. I would be happy to hear about anything getting returned to the archives, but... NINE EPISODES of Patrick Troughton? How can this be? Isn't it marvellous? I could go to iTunes and download it right now. *gives up and pinches self again*
Also it must have been especially moving for Deborah Watling - not only has so much of her own work (as Victoria) suddenly been returned, but it included one of the two stories (both lost barring one episode) that also featured her father, Jack Watling, as Professor Travers.
And if look at this (linked from various places). Imagine how uninteresting this was on audio, and look at it now we have the pictures back. (Or, Patrick Troughton = ♥ forever.)
With an end note that I am so amused by my local newspaper accidentally breaking the embargo six hours before midnight and suddenly getting the DW world's attention (and also their cute apology). That not only meant I could go to bed and sleep when I needed to (thanks, Northern Echo!!) but it was hilarious.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24467337
I know, I'm a bit belated, but that's because the BBC are mean about midnight embargoes and therefore making everything happen on a day when I can't make sensible posts because I had to go out for a bit (and so was too exhausted).
And it is a miracle: I don't know when I first found out so many episodes were missing - I'd imagine sometime after I started getting DWM in 1991, or possibly only when Tomb of the Cybermen was recovered in 1992. And that was the last time they found a whole story. In the twenty years that have followed, they've made odd discoveries of an episode at a time (four in all) and nobody thought another whole serial would ever be uncovered anywhere, ever, though there were always hoaxes now and then. So they've found more in one swoop here than has been found in the past 22 years. That is amazing.
Anyway, nearly two whole six-parters with Patrick Troughton! Isn't that fantastic? And The Enemy of the World and The Web of Fear, which were both such promising-looking ones. Patrick Troughton with an evil Bond villain twin! The Brigadier's first story, before he was even the Brigadier! People on my flist have watched them. It's real. I can put Enemy of the World on my Christmas list! Excuse me if I carry on belatedly flailing, because this is just unreal - the sort of find we could never let ourselves dare to believe in!
And I have very strong feelings - not unrelated to being a librarian - about people destroying created works, like published books and national television anyway. I would be happy to hear about anything getting returned to the archives, but... NINE EPISODES of Patrick Troughton? How can this be? Isn't it marvellous? I could go to iTunes and download it right now. *gives up and pinches self again*
Also it must have been especially moving for Deborah Watling - not only has so much of her own work (as Victoria) suddenly been returned, but it included one of the two stories (both lost barring one episode) that also featured her father, Jack Watling, as Professor Travers.
And if look at this (linked from various places). Imagine how uninteresting this was on audio, and look at it now we have the pictures back. (Or, Patrick Troughton = ♥ forever.)
With an end note that I am so amused by my local newspaper accidentally breaking the embargo six hours before midnight and suddenly getting the DW world's attention (and also their cute apology). That not only meant I could go to bed and sleep when I needed to (thanks, Northern Echo!!) but it was hilarious.
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Date: 2013-10-12 12:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-12 04:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-12 02:25 pm (UTC)I'm definitely interested in actually SEEING The Web of Fear at last!
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Date: 2013-10-12 04:02 pm (UTC):-D
*hugs back*
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Date: 2013-10-12 04:08 pm (UTC)I have the Target novel of Web of Fear, so I know the story -- can't wait to actually see it! -- but I know nothing about Enemy of the World. There's an evil Bond villain who looks like the Doctor?! Actually, don't tell me -- I think I want to go into it cold.
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Date: 2013-10-13 08:42 am (UTC)I've read the novelisations of both of these - the Enemy of the World in particular - and seen the previously sole surviving episode of each, so... basically what I know of both is very good and I'm delighted we've got them back! I'm only sorry Nicholas Courtney is no longer here to see that they've finally retrieved the Brigadier's first story.
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Date: 2013-10-12 05:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-14 01:04 pm (UTC)There's no hurry at all, although obviously, I'd welcome it back as soon as you can manage.
Don't worry if not. I'm hopeful it won't really need much doing to it once I'm through this edit...
♥
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Date: 2013-10-14 01:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-14 01:25 pm (UTC):-)
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Date: 2013-10-14 04:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-14 08:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-12 03:20 pm (UTC)Now, back to dreaming about missing Adam Adamants and Ian Hendry Avengers. :) Well, you never know...
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Date: 2013-10-12 04:03 pm (UTC)And, no, you never know! There could easily be other things out there, if somebody's found Abominable Snowmen that didn't melt despite 45 years in Africa.
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Date: 2013-10-12 05:11 pm (UTC)(Don't mind me, I'm a little light-headed... well, honestly, I think my eyestrain is acting up again, I keep getting headaches when I computer. :P)
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Date: 2013-10-13 08:39 am (UTC)And, aww, now take care!! Yuletide will still be around for two whole months and more yet! *hugs JT*
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Date: 2013-10-13 09:02 am (UTC)It's, it's, it's a little like "My son that was dead is alive again, he was lost and is found." ;-) *is very tiny and excitable* (I get excited about the animated recons, too. But not as much. :D)
*hugs back*
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Date: 2013-10-13 12:44 pm (UTC)Oh, yes - isn't it just? :-D
♥
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Date: 2013-10-12 10:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-13 08:33 am (UTC)I am happy that they exist - and one day, I will see them. Which, compared to the beginning of the week, is quite simply, a miracle. :-)
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Date: 2013-10-12 10:35 pm (UTC)It would be lovely to have more be found, but perhaps we should be satisfied that we have this much.
Having been library staff as well, I truly understand the feelings about people destroying created works. Nooo, please archive it. *whimper*
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Date: 2013-10-13 08:29 am (UTC)Yes, I shall be waiting for the DVDs, but... I don't mind that. It's there and it exists and one day I will watch it! There is an awful lot of DW I haven't watched it, because I don't like to think of having seen it all and there being no more! Also because DVDs cost and for the last 3 years, I've found it impossible to watch DW. (As of this month, I can again! It's still a bit more tiring than some things, though. I have no idea why that is.)
And, yes! *hugs fellow-librarian-at-heart*
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Date: 2013-10-13 08:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-13 09:10 am (UTC)Also, I don't know if you've seen these or would be interested, but there's a list of Night Vale transcripts (http://rubato.tumblr.com/post/55558758191/welcome-to-night-vale-transcripts).
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Date: 2013-10-13 12:44 pm (UTC):-)
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Date: 2013-10-14 02:22 am (UTC)Anyway, yeah, I did rather wonder if the one-narrator-who-isn't-David-Collings thing might not be a bit much for you. :S It's sad you don't have a New Thing to listen to, though.
(I can't do audios at all when I'm low, because anything that would upset me to see it written upsets me even more to hear out loud. So Night Vale was never going to work for me because of the dystopic elements. I'm not sure if I had a point to that; I'm very brainless lately. :P)
*hugs*
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Date: 2013-10-14 08:47 am (UTC)Well, as long as it's relatively short and a thing where the format is that they're supposed to be doing all the talking and not reading a book, where they pretend to be other people. (Yes. I am strange. You knew that.)
Anyway, I do have some audio to listen to, but I was curious about it. And episodic is actually easier than Big Finish where it's one whole adventure because then I get oddly stressed about getting through it. :-)
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Date: 2013-10-13 03:30 pm (UTC)You say that you don't think you could deal with the narrator's voice. I love that voice, but yeah, fair enough, I understand why it could be a problem. Do be warned that it's all recounted by Cecil's voice in almost the style of National Public Radio in the USA, although we do hear a little of Carlos and Dana. So, if that's a dealbreaker, sorry.
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Date: 2013-10-13 03:56 pm (UTC)As to the voice, to be fair, I only listened to a few seconds. I do have a bit of strange thing about voices if they are a bit too monotone, though I expect I'd get used to it if it was good - I'm trying to tell myself I'd never have liked it anyway so I don't mind about not even being able to try it, really. But, it is a thing. It's not a coincidence that my favourite actor has just about the most effortlessly expressive voice I've ever heard. I can't watch Adam Sandler because he combines a monotone voice with an expressionless face and I think I launch into some sort of weird robophobia thing of my own... (I'm strange. I dunno. I also have a fear of fish and things that move in water and don't like the feel of synthetic fabrics when they've been washed. What can I say??)
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Date: 2013-10-12 10:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-13 08:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-13 04:07 am (UTC)Dunno when they'll make it here, but I have my fingers crossed....
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Date: 2013-10-13 08:24 am (UTC)And I thought you would be very pleased with the news!! It's fantastic, isn't it?
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Date: 2013-10-13 10:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-10-13 12:28 pm (UTC)\o/
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Date: 2013-10-13 09:04 pm (UTC)I loved the cute apology from the Northern Echo too. :oD
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Date: 2013-10-14 08:48 am (UTC)Not at all! or I don't think so, anyway! I think it's awful they were so careless with so much old TV - I'd be really glad to see anything get episodes returned. of course, it's obviously a hundred times better when it's the lovely Patrick Troughton they've found - and nine episodes!!
:-)
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Date: 2013-10-14 07:11 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2013-10-18 03:56 pm (UTC)What? Oh, WOW, this makes me happy! I can't wait to get my internet back again so I can see these.
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Date: 2013-10-18 07:27 pm (UTC)It's amazing, isn't it? Who'd ever have thought we'd get such another find after all this time?
*wishes you the internet back with all speed*