Icon Repost: Public Eye

[thisbluespirit]

Giant Public Eye icon repost! (And I mean giant - I made two sets originally, so altogether I think there are 150 icons. Mostly Alfred Burke and Pauline Delany, but also a random assortment of familiar guest stars.)

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[liadt]

Hurrah for Petra Markham:)

[thisbluespirit]

I have a definite feeling you said that when I posted them the first time, too! She was good in that one, anyway. XD

[liadt]

Ah well, repeat all the good stuff I say;p

[sovay]

Icon Repost: Public Eye

I really do need to watch this show. (I may need to finish my current TV and recover from maxing out first.)

[thisbluespirit]

If you're curious about Alfred Burke, it is definitely the place to go!

[kateoftheangels]

I just realised this icon is from The Flypaper! Much though I loved that episode, I think I might switch it for Frank and Helen (and Percy). Thank you very kindly for letting my help myself to these.

I was also in fact wondering if there were fannish spaces for Public Eye chatter? Or for obscure British fandoms, really. I have all this pent up feeling about, e.g., Frank's chemistry with Barbara Lewson-Jones and his best enemies interaction with Percy Firbank, not to mention everything about Helen, and it currently has very little outlet...

[thisbluespirit]

My pleasure! I keep meaning to re-upload icons, so it's good to get reminded to actually do it.

I was also in fact wondering if there were fannish spaces for Public Eye chatter? Or for obscure British fandoms, really.

There's just me here and Mariocki on tumblr, as far as I know, really. When I watrched it, it was just me wailing at my flist who were very good at humouring me and even watching a couple of episodes to placate me. They're very kind.

There are more people around interested in obscure old TV generally, but everybody prefers different platforms - mariocki and a couple others over on tumblr, me, liadt, swordznsorcery and one or two others here on my flist and so on. I don't know what would be the best way to gather people together these days, unfortunately. There will be more people around, so you could make a comm, but ones for general stuff and discussion rarely seem to do well. Activity ones seem to flourish the best. I suppose you could start an old Brit TV kinkmeme!! I used to run an Obscure & British Commentfest once a year and there was certainly an audience for it. XD

Barbara Lewson-Jones is the ex-con housekeeper in S5, yes? It's been a while since I rewatched. I nearly rewatched PE to death 2013-2015 so I've left it alone for a bit, so I can appreciate it all over again sometime.

Helen is so lovely, though. You can tell how much I love her by the disproportionate number of icons of Pauline Delany here, compared to her actual screen time!

[kateoftheangels]

Oh, I am not very good with tumblr, and twitter is even worse. I can barely keep up with dw and ao3 as it is! Though possibly I ought to make an exception for Alfie Burke. How I miss the days when all of fandom was on livejournal and bulletin boards. There should absolutely be a kinkmeme — I would definitely be there for that with all my bells on. Where would one start one, and do you think there would be interest?

Yes, Barbara was the ex-con housekeeper working for the fancy developer tycoon (with the out of control young daughter and the wife played by Helen Porteous!), whom Frank flirts with over the washing-up? He seemed genuinely drawn to her, and genuinely put out that she’d been using him, I don’t know. It wasn’t like the deep companionship and bond he had with Helen, of course, but Frank connects emotionally with so few people (and so few women!) that this encounter really stood out for me.

Helen is so lovely! I want to fix all the things for her and Frank, oh my goodness. You told me in a comment on ao3 that S8 would have seen their end game; I am so very sorry we did not get to see it.

[thisbluespirit]

There should absolutely be a kinkmeme — I would definitely be there for that with all my bells on. Where would one start one, and do you think there would be interest?

I think you'd need to look at some of the existing kinkmemes for ideas on rules and general practices, but anyone can just start a comm, just like that! (It is temptingly easy to do. XD) And then just promote it around fandomcalendar and yuletide and fandom_on_dw and places like that. I think there would be an interest, yes.

My Obscure & British commentfest I did was basically just anything British that wasn't a very large fandom, no qualifications on how old or new and that did seem to hit a particular niche that was specific and yet wide enough to work. You could equally do just fandoms prior to a certain date, but my suspicion is that US stuff would just completely edge out anything else, because that is the way of the internet, inevitably. But I think there would be people who would be interested in just old British fandoms, and probably no size-qualification would give the same kind of narrow and wide enough waulity, especially if the cut-off date was only say, ended 10 years prior to posting which would soon let some standards back in and help draw more people.

Keeping it active after the first flurry would take a bit more modly work, though. The ones that post update posts and things like that tend to stay more lively. But sometimes the first flurry is enough anyway!

Anyway, I checked my historium masterlist and here are some so you can see the different ways people do them:

https://corsetsandlemons.dreamwidth.org/
https://blacksails-kink.dreamwidth.org/
https://jsmn-kinkmeme.dreamwidth.org/
https://mag7-kink-meme.dreamwidth.org/
https://potc-kink-meme.dreamwidth.org/
https://terrorkinkmeme.dreamwidth.org/
https://give-satisfaction.dreamwidth.org/
https://mythology-kink.dreamwidth.org/
https://smallfandomkinkmeme.dreamwidth.org/
https://starwarskinkmeme.dreamwidth.org/

(Sometimes people do it as a separate journal account, I'm not sure why. Maybe to help stay anon, although you can just do an anon mod account for that as well.)

but Frank connects emotionally with so few people (and so few women!) that this encounter really stood out for me.

I always think that one is kind of, he's looking for something after Helen, but someone he sees as being more on the same level as him (ex-con, damaged etc.), except of course that doesn't work out, because she's inevitably not as trustworthy, because he's better than he sees himself as being, which seems to be a mistake he makes over and over with his clients in different ways.

You told me in a comment on ao3 that S8 would have seen their end game; I am so very sorry we did not get to see it.

I don't know for certain, but, yes, ROger Marshall always said that's how he would have ended it, and Michael Chapman always seemed to respect his wishes even after he wasn't as involved (RM didn't like Nell and so she went pretty quick, for example), and I assume that's why they made a point of having Pauline Delany still in one episode each series in S5, 6 and 7. So, yeah. But OTOH, I think Alfred Burke was probably right about it not being able to retain its odd character if it became a Euston film serial. Whatever, he totally went back to Brighton in the end!! (In fact, I think someone asked Roger Marshall what he'd do if someone gave him a million pounds to end it, and he was, just, have him go back to Mrs Mortimer at Brighton!)

[kateoftheangels]

Ooh, thank you for this detailed explanation of how to kinkmeme, and how to frame the parameters such as would draw in the maximum number of interested parties. I confess I don't have a wide friends list, and I am definitely much more a participant than a mod, so this does seem a rather daunting process, particularly now in the run up to Yuletide, but maybe an early next year sort of thing when people are bored and indoors staying from the cold? And that might be more manageable for me, as well!

(A kinkmeme doesn't necessarily need to be comprised of kink prompts, no? I am as excited to write and receive mature-rated fic as the next person, but I'd imagine at least 50% of the interest would be in gen fic?)

I always think that one is kind of, he's looking for something after Helen, but someone he sees as being more on the same level as him (ex-con, damaged etc.), except of course that doesn't work out, because she's inevitably not as trustworthy, because he's better than he sees himself as being, which seems to be a mistake he makes over and over with his clients in different ways.

Oh my, I just had a moment of clutching at my heart, for this is it, entirely and completely, and I cannot believe I didn't immediately see it. Alfie and the script lays it all out on the line exactly like that: Frank is drawn to Barbara because he's been looking for a closer connection after Helen (he even sits in Barbara's kitchen and helps her with the drying, in the way he did with Helen), and of course he thinks she's more on his level (and he thinks that Helen was too good for him) -- and of course Barbara wasn't as trustworthy, and Frank deserves so much more than he thinks he does. And, YES, it's a mistake he keeps making with his clients and the people he encounters along the way! This show is finding new ways to break my heart :(

Whatever, he totally went back to Brighton in the end!! (In fact, I think someone asked Roger Marshall what he'd do if someone gave him a million pounds to end it, and he was, just, have him go back to Mrs Mortimer at Brighton!)

Again, I'll just be over here clutching this hope to my heart, too. Watch me pour out all these feelings in my Yuletide letter :(((

[thisbluespirit]

Ooh, thank you for this detailed explanation of how to kinkmeme, and how to frame the parameters such as would draw in the maximum number of interested parties.

I've never really been involved with a kinkmeme as such, though! And, yeah, whenever you felt like doing it. It can help a lot to find one that works in a way you like and just adapt to your own needs, but equally there are no rules and you can do it however you please. I've just dropped another comm recently and have some ideas for other things to do instead when I'm ready, so I wouldn't be up for co-modding, but I would be happy to help out with promotion and banners, because I have run enough comms and small fests to be used to doing that. And, yeah, these days they're usually just general prompt memes, really. But, again, that would be entirely up to you.

Plus, it doesn't necessarily matter whether it keeps going or not - it depends what you want. Just to get some fic or gather some like-minded souls. or you could do a one-off and more specific fest. People seem to like a kinkmeme, though.

Oh my, I just had a moment of clutching at my heart, for this is it, entirely and completely, and I cannot believe I didn't immediately see it.

Awww, and this is, btw, my conclusion after far too much obsessive watching and blathering about it that I did five or six years ago when I first watched it. It is such a strange but gripping and heart-breaking show. (I lent it to my parents and they watched two episodes and told me it was unwatchable, what had I given them? And then next thing, they were addicted and demanding to know if I had the rest. :lol:)

[singe]

Colin Baker! I knew I recognized that smirk.

[thisbluespirit]

INdeed. XD He has a sweet little cameo in one of the eps from 1971.

[bunn7cula]

I was so going to screech “Where is Gareth Thomas!” but I see you have him covered so no disappointment here. :)

And what a lovely parade of faces otherwise. Look at the handsome Suchet, and what a young Colin Baker!

And of course Mr Marker himself. I really must watch this entire series one day.

[thisbluespirit]

Yep, Gareth and Travis II and Colin! XD

And of course Mr Marker himself. I really must watch this entire series one day.

It really is one of the very best, I think.

[swordznsorcery]

Poor Frank. Life is never kind to him, yet somehow there's something very happy-making about him all the same.

[thisbluespirit]

He is! ♥